The Last Word

It's been a year, so far, of lessons in "the last word." I believe we all have the desire to have the last word in a matter that offends who we think we are or a belief we hold. Some of us give in to the desire and others of us step back from it. Have you stepped back from having the last word? It's hard isn't it? Somehow the lie has been planted that if we don't have the last word then we have lost the debate and the other person has won. Was this lie planted because of the insecurity of the flesh? Or because of the competitive nature of humans? Well regardless, the need to have the last word creates ugly behavior, hurtful words, and resentful hearts.

In the spring I got into a rather heated argument with someone. It takes a lot for me to yell at someone and I yelled. I did, however, stop short of saying things I would regret for days, weeks, and months to come.  But I did yell at someone. That wasn't okay and I did apologize for it later without using the "however" that I really wanted to.  After we resolved the disagreement as much as we could I got an email from this person.  I call this email "the last word." They couldn't handle not getting in the last word. So I let them. I read the email and the attachment of last words in bolded red and took a deep breath and then dragged it into a folder and went about my day. I gave the person the satisfaction of having the last word because it clearly was very important to them and their ego (other people were copied on the email as well so that it could be noted that this person was important and putting me in my place).  There are two main reasons I let the last word be theirs and not mine. One reason because I didn't want to give this person any more power or sway over my emotions and state of mind. They had already pushed me to yell, that was enough.  Secondly I felt like my silence might speak louder, eventually, than anything else I could say (and believe me, there was plenty more I could have said). I wasn't insecure, uncertain, or regretful of anything I had said and the views I was offering. I was confident that I had valid points that were worth considering.  Thema Davis said, "Have the maturity to know that sometimes silence is more powerful than having the last word." Having the last word usually ends up making us look weak, insecure, immature, and slightly ridiculous. Believe me, the bolded red statements said a lot about this person and their ego/pride. I'm pretty sure my silence said something about mine as well.

Then another opportunity to practice this lesson popped up rather unexpectedly. A disagreement from a few years ago resurrected, but only very briefly. I was asked a question. I gave a careful reply. The response was a warm-up to the last word. I replied only to the things I believed necessitated a response and ignored other parts all together. The response back was "the last word." It was saturated in toxic emotional waste. It smelled of pride. Self-righteousness was the soundtrack. I did respond back with a brief statement that clearly we disagreed and that was okay and I would no longer be in communication about the topic. So did I have the last word or did the other person? They had the last word because their communication was typical of the motives and intents behind last word conversations. Out of respect I choose not to address, again, any of the issues or answer any questions or concede and politely end the interaction. Again, I was confident in my observations and opinions - I felt no need to attempt to justify them or to defend them.  That confidence meant I was empowered to step back from the last word temptation and I didn't get caught up in an emotional tangle. Word choices and examples from the other person indicated that they were tripped up in an emotional tangle that included insecurity.

I've been tripped up in the last word before and I never feel good about it afterward. Having the last word never gives me any satisfaction, the sense of victory, or empowerment. In fact having the last word usually means that I spend the next few days stewing and thinking of more last words to say and different rebuttals for imaginary arguments. So really, having the last word drives me a little bit insane. But when I step back from having the last word then I step into freedom. I don't dwell on the conflict, I don't give much thought at all to the situation. In short, I move on.


Are you one who needs to have the last word? Have you ever considered why that is? 
Are one who steps back from the temptation to get in the last word? What are your reasons why you don't and won't engage?

The Speech of Fools

Jun 2nd, 9:38pm
I am not happy to be woke up to be asked for money by your radio station. So what if the law says you can. You lost a loyal listener.

Jun 9th, 3:38pm
We apologize for any inconvenience you experienced recently regarding our radio station. We do our best to be mindful of time zones and times of day that is acceptable for phone calls. We won't always be perfect with the call times so we are very sorry that you were awoken by our call, we wouldn't have liked it nor appreciated it either. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience. Sincerely, Radio Station

Jun 9th, 3:41pm
No worries. Sad that you have to make phone calls for money.

Jun 9th, 4:18pm
In part asking for money is part of our station mission because we desire listener support and to have flexibility that being owned by a corporation wouldn't allow. The cost of running a radio station in any one area, not to mention in several areas as this radio station is, requires that we invite people (and businesses) to invest in the station itself. If we were a corporation run radio station and owned by a conglomerate then we would have a lot more funds available to us to air the station but we wouldn't have the freedoms we have with content, etc. We made the decision years ago, by being a listener supported station, that the pros outweighed the cons for our particular goals and mission. This means that we do pledge drives and we make follow up phone calls to previous and current listeners asking if they would like to be an impact partner to keep this radio station in their local communities. It is our hope that you will understand the position we are in as we try to reach people with God in this particular format. Sincerely, Radio Station

Jun 9th, 5:02pm
Budget better and don't call people. Extend your pledge drive.

Jun 10th, 6:08am
Thank you for your suggestions.

Yep. That's an actual conversation I had with someone not too long ago. I didn't make a word of it up, it's all verbatim. I was fine until the highlighted response. Really? I mean, gee we hadn't thought about a budget. Huh, we'll have to give that a go. *scratches head*

Unbelievable. We all can be unbelievably ridiculous when we presume to be an expert on something we know nothing about or when we think the answer is so black and white. Unbelievable.

The conversation I had with the listener above reminded me to quit being unbelievably ridiculous. Don't speak into something that isn't black and white, that I don't know anything about, that I haven't taken the time to look into and get the facts. When I open my mouth and speak about things that I actually know nothing about all I end up doing is alienating people and looking like a fool.

There are proverbs that speak about fools and their speech. I wince when I read a proverb about how a fool talks and realize I have been a fool from time to time. Proverbs 18:2 says, "Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions." OUCH. I don't know about *you* but that stings a bit. In my conversation the disgruntled listener I gave some fairly clear understanding in my explanation of why we choose to ask for money. Their response proved that they didn't care about understanding, just in doling out their version of advice. That listener, in that conversation, was the fool.

Customer Service always provides a lot of great examples for foolish people and interactions.  A few months ago I was engaged in another conversation with a disgruntled listener and this proverb came to life, "Don’t answer fools when they speak foolishly, or you will be just like them.  Answer fools when they speak foolishly, or they will think they are really wise." (Proverbs 26:4-5)  Wait. What? It says don't answer them or you look like a fool but then it says if you don't answer them they think they have won the "argument."  Well, which is it?  It turns out it is both! Some situations we should apply the first idea and in other situations we should apply the second. The offended listener that helped me navigate this particular proverb took us through both scenarios. The complaint came in so I, in the spirit of the second way to answer a fool, sent a reply back. The person was very unhappy with my crafted response so they responded back (see Proverbs 18:2 above for an idea of their response) and I was then compelled to respond according to scenario number 1 which is to not respond at all.  This made them extra mad because by this point it was clear I was supposed to take their side and change our entire programming just to please them and their opinions of which they didn't want to take a deeper look at to examine for change.  So I answered for understanding and then I didn't answer because there didn't need to be two fools attempting to converse.

I realize both of these examples don't seem to put me in the fool category but believe me, I've been the fool plenty of times in my 41 years of life. We all have had moments of playing the fool and being the wise. The key to being mature about it is when we can recognize our foolishness and 'fess up to it before too many other people notice it, are alienated by it, or have to deal with us because of it.  Confucius said, "To know that one knows what one knows, and to know that one doesn't know what one doesn't know, there lies true wisdom." The older I get the more aware of what it is I don't know, so shouldn't speak about, and what I do know, and should only speak about when invited or strongly compelled by the Holy Spirit.

I'm grateful for these recent interactions that have caused me to examine myself to make sure I'm not behaving and speaking like a fool. It doesn't mean I don't ever play the fool but I'm becoming more and more aware of when I'm headed in that direction.  And I'd rather keep that information to myself than let it be known to others. *grin*
"It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt." (This wise quote is attributed to many people. Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain being two of them.)

Same Place, Different Angle

Have you ever stood, whether it is literally or figuratively, in the same place as someone and yet when you compared what you saw it was very different things?  Perhaps you each noticed different people or different tones of voice. Perhaps each of you picked up different verbal and non-verbal signals or nuances.  Maybe the same place you are standing has more than one problem, issue, or topic to focus on and each of you have been drawn to different ones.  Have you ever stood in that same place with someone and been amazed, or maybe frustrated, that what is being experienced isn't the same but in fact very different?

In a much simpler vein have you ever stood in the same exact place as someone and you both snapped a picture and when you looked at them you had both captured different perspectives of the same exact scene? My first trip to NYC we went to the Statue of Liberty and Ellis Island. Walking around the island that is home to Lady Liberty my brother and I both spied a great shot for a picture. Without discussing it or perhaps even realizing we had both seen the exact same shot we stopped and each of us took a picture. We even crouched in a similar manner to get in the shot what we both had seen.  Our pictures came out the same but yet very different. He was somehow able to capture things about the shot that I didn't see or pick up on.

Take a look at the following pictures. They are of the same exact places but taken from different perspectives.  Meet me below after you look through the pictures. *wink*

Central Park, New York City

The Forbidden City, Beijing China

Hollywood Sign, California

Las Vegas Strip, Nevada

Little Mermaid, Copenhagen Denmark

Mona Lisa, The Louvre

Mont St. Michel, France

Mount Rushmore, South Dakota

Niagara Falls, New York/Canada

Pyramids of Giza, Egypt

Rock of Gibraltar, Iberian Peninsula

Sagrada Familia, Barcelona Spain

Santorini, Greece

St Basil's Cathedral, Moscow Russia

Stonehenge, United Kingdom

The Acropolis, Athens Greece

The Alamo, Texas

The Arc de Triomphe, Paris

The Brandenburg Gate, Berlin Germany

The Great Wall of China ends abruptly as soon as it reaches the ocean

The Pantheon of Rome, Italy

The Taj Mahal, India

I am fascinated by the above perspective pictures. Neither picture invalidates what is being looked at, it just provides a different angle, a different view, a different perspective on that (in the case of these pictures) landmark/historical marker.

This happens all the time in life and it is an opportunity for collaboration or conflict. I can't keep track of the number of times someone else and I have stood in the same place on an issue or something but we have had very different views of how to execute it or approach it or settle it. Does that mean that one of us doesn't have valid ideas, thoughts, etc? No, it just means that we are coming at it differently and for some reason, in our culture, if we do that then we must be at odds and gather people on sides and make some noise. Why? Why is that "a thing"? Why can't we agree to agree and agree to disagree and honor the other person's intentions and motivations as they have been expressed sincerely, passionately, and with a desire for improvement?  Why are we threatened when someone expresses a different perspective than we hold?  Expression is different than demanding by the way. When someone demands of me to hold their opinion, perspective, or ideology then I shut down, dig in my heels, and refuse to budge.  The same happens if I demand someone hold my opinions. Expressing and demanding are two very different approaches to differing thoughts.

Sometimes I have to take a step back to gain a clearer view. And sometimes I have to take a step forward to see something closer. There are times I need to stretch on to my tippy toes for a look and other times I have to crouch way down.  Distance and position determine the view I have and in order to have the most complete perspective I can, it's beneficial for me to do all I can to see it from every angle possible. The more angles I view something from, the more complete the picture is for me. That benefits me and those I interact with. Sometimes our pristine or sterile view of something needs to get a little filthy with a touch of reality.  If we have a messy perspective on something it could use a little shot of sterility. Both are okay because both remind us that there is a bigger story than what we know.

Next time you find yourself looking at someone or something and you are shoulder to shoulder with someone who is looking at the same thing but expressing a different perspective, try this; switch places.  Clear your mind, blink your eyes, do your best to remove what keeps you from seeing the fuller picture and look with new eyes, open mind, softened heart.

What do you see now?

*Perspective Photos found at this site. 

*The God Card*

The organization I work for sends out free Bibles to our listeners at their request. We average about 300 a month and we have a partnership with a publishing company that provides us the Bibles to send out. Every month my boss and I get the report of how many Bibles were sent the month prior and the report includes any comments the listener includes. Usually it is the reason why they are requesting the free copy and I try to skim through the comments every month to be reminded of the larger picture. Sometimes I get so tangled up in the minutia of the business that I forget what's really going on "out there" and not behind the scenes.  I don't think this is uncommon. I've only ever worked for ministries and if anyone is going to survive working for a ministry they have to be mindful about the larger picture and they have to actively pursue keeping it in front of them.  Newsflash: Christian based organizations have the same office politics, scrambling for position/title, etc that secular businesses have. But in some ways it is worse in Christian organizations. Wondering why?  It's simple. Because of *The God Card*.

In case you aren't familiar with this particular method of blame shifting and manipulating let me briefly explain. You do or say something and get reprimanded for it. To avoid accepting personal responsibility or to make it seem as if what you did or said was God ordained you pull, i.e. use, *The God Card.* As in, "Well I prayed about it and God gave me the go-ahead, " or "God led me to a scripture that seemed to be clear indication..." or, my personal favorite, "Are you telling me that I don't hear from God?  Are you the only one who hears from God?" And then the conversation is shut down because nobody is willing to argue against *The God Card*.

Back to the Bibles.  In June we had a company meeting.  Okay fine, it was actually a Disco themed surprise party for the bulk of employees.  It was a first and it was amazingly successful.  It coincided with a new shipment of Bibles that had come in and my boss thought we should lay as many hands as possible on a stack of Bibles at this party-meeting and pray over them.  So we did.

Now to be fair to God we didn't tell him what to do with the Bibles or the preferred method he used along with us to get the Bibles to people.  And even if we had given him our suggestions for how the Bibles would be be distributed and used he wouldn't have listened anyway. He had a plan long before we had the idea to even pray over them.  So we prayed and asked him to send out his word through us. 

Fast forward about two months to August. Through some stumbling it is discovered that some bot in cyber space grabbed on to our Bibles url which has the word "free" in it and put it on least 6 websites that offer samples and free products to anyone. Hey everyone loves a free thing right?  Clearly. Not only did our url land on the sites for people to request a free bible, it put it on the home page under "top deals." 

The good news?  There are a lot of people out there who would like to read and study the word of God to get their curiosities satisfied or to get their questions answered or to discover who this God guy is. 

The "bad" news?  We don't have the number of Bibles we initially thought had been requested, nor do we have the means to do shipping fulfillment. 

Houston, erm I mean God, we've got a problem. In 7 days we had about 13,000 requests at the rate of about 200 per hour! It's the coolest *problem* I've heard about in a very long time.  The response to the *problem* was split.  Some of us were super excited, some of us not so much. We all, however, love God's word but sometimes the logistics can get in the way of the excitement. There was a lot of talking and brainstorming. A LOT. I was praying a lot. A LOT. This, I knew, was an opportunity and I wasn't sure how I would respond if we dismissed it because of logistics that can be worked out. 

Eventually I was in my boss' office discussing this *problem* and I reminded him, because God reminded me, about praying over those stacks of Bibles in June. His first response to me was, "That's guilt!" If you know me then you can imagine what my response back was. *grin* We also like to accuse people of using *The God Card* when we want our way to happen or we want to put people in a position of guilt so they will do what we want them to. But I wasn't using *The God Card*, God had actually used it on me! God pulled his own card when he reminded me that we prayed over those Bibles and left it up to him to distribute however he wanted.  

The only one who can pull *The God Card* and get away with it is God himself. When he uses it then we can be assured it's a legit response to something we have said or done. He doesn't use it like we do, to blame shift or manipulate.  He uses it because he knows the ins and outs of everything and sometimes we need the reminder that he does know. When God himself uses *The God Card* things get done and people listen, when we try to use *The God Card* people get annoyed and won't usually cooperate with such shenanigans.  

Yes, shenanigans. Trying to pull *The God Card* on others is folly.  I can spot the use of it a mile away and I won't give in to it. If you know me well enough you know that I rarely invoke God's name into something unless I am 100% that it is biblical and God ordained.  I don't believe in *The God Card*, it gets abused and tossed about in attempts to justify bad behavior so I refuse to use *The God Card* myself, I won't do it. But when God uses his own card with me then I perk up and I listen and respond as necessary. 

Oh, the Bibles? Well we did a lot of sorting of lists and discovered a lot of duplicates. So we eliminated duplicates and whittled the list down. Then we took another look at the list and decided to keep the names that had also given a reason for wanting the free Bible. That has us down to a number we can fulfill with Bibles and we are just going to eat the shipping because it's more important to us to be obedient to God's methods than it is to wiggle our way out of sending out his word due to silly logistics.  *whew*  I'm totally satisfied with the resolution of this *problem*, I believe we are honoring God in it. I'm also jealous because our fulfillment happens in Nashville and they are going to have a "stuffing party" and clearly I can't be in Nashville just for that!  I seem to miss out on a lot of the fun.  Oh well.  

The next time you get the brilliant idea to use *The God Card* to blame shift or manipulate try stopping. Bring that idea to a screeching halt in your mind and instead try accepting responsibility. Quit using God as your cover for bad behavior, wrong thinking, etc. Yes, God is big and can handle it but don't make him handle it.  Be a grown person and handle it yourself.  Own your stuff. Remember, only God can use his own card and "get away with it." When we try we just earn ourselves a whole bunch of disrespect from other people, isolation from authentic relationships, and a neglect of ownership for ourselves.  And when we live from those places we are just living a life full of shenanigans.  At least that's what God says.  *wink*

Pathways

I will bring the blind by a way that they did not know;

    I will lead them in paths that they have not known.

I will make darkness light before them

    and crooked things straight.

These things I will do for them

    and not forsake them.

Isaiah 42:16

Pathways intrigue me.  There are so many different kinds of paths. Straight ones, crooked ones, smooth ones, rocky ones.  Ones clearly marked and ones hidden in plain sight.  Some lead to a destination and some dead end. There are paths that go straight uphill, follow the flat plains, some take you down and then up.  There are wide paths and precariously narrow ones.  I've seen paths covered in the shade of trees and sun soaked paths.   

In 1995 my husband and I went hiking up a path on Mt. Evans.  It was almost completely covered under the shade of trees and it was snow packed and icy.  When we got to a particular place on the trail and he sat me on a large boulder.  With snot running out of my nose and my toes tingling from the snow hike he asked me to marry him.  I told him he must be sick and we needed to get him to a hospital right away.  Oh and then eventually, sitting on that boulder, I said yes. 

In 2001 a group of my MOPS friends and I decided we would do a girls only hike up Pikes Peak.  We spent the summer training and then in August we hiked a variety of paths that led to the tippy top of Pikes Peak.  I live a very sedentary life, I was pretty proud of myself.

In 2006 I was forced on a path of betrayal.  It was one of the toughest paths I've ever had to navigate but at the end of it was a stunning place of restoration.

In 2007 I traveled a flight path from Colorado to Nairobi, Kenya. I had never been overseas and I was certainly "never" going to Africa and yet there I was. Yes, there I was in the midst of the oldest slum in East Africa falling in love with the people of Kenya, having heart surgery, and returning to Colorado a totally new Beth, the one I was originally meant to be.

In 2010 I ran a marked path in Golden, Colorado. I ran with Bon Jovi on my iPod and my lifelong best friend in my heart. I ran the path in memory of her and to raise awareness and money for Pancreatic Cancer Research. Pancreatic cancer stole her from this life way too soon. 

In 2010, 2011, 2013, and 2014 I crawled along a path where the mountaintop was never visible from the depths of the deep and dark valley I was in called depression.  Those paths were strenuous on my heart, my marriage, my friendships, but not on my relationship with God. Those paths gave me a deeper hold on the one who created me and held me.  

I'm not a risk taker by nature. I don't look at a path that I can't see very well and move forward on it anyway. I want a little information; how long is the path, where does it end up, will it be easy or hard to travel, are there others on it and if so who, information like that is what I usually want to know. Sometimes I can get some of the information, most of the time not.  It's the same with the life paths I encounter, I prefer some information.  Sometimes I can get some, most of the time not. God asks me to take the risk and trust him. And so I have to step onto the path and know I am being led and I can trust what I don't know and see to the One who does know and see.

What kinds of paths have you traveled so far in this life you've been given?  

The Lord God is my Strength, my personal bravery, and my invincible army; He makes my feet like hinds’ feet and will make me to walk [not to stand still in terror, but to walk] and make [spiritual] progress upon my high places [of trouble, suffering, or responsibility]!

Habakkuk 3:19

  

*Perspectives: judg•men•tal

judgmental
    adjective judg•men•tal \ˌjəj-ˈmen-təl\
: tending to judge people too quickly and critically
: of, relating to, or involving judgment
Full Definition of JUDGMENTAL
1
:  of, relating to, or involving judgment
2
:  characterized by a tendency to judge harshly

*Perspective: A way of looking at a situation.  I'm a daughter, sister, friend, wife, mom, aunt, and employee.  I don't claim to be an expert on anything nor have all the answers to something.  Please bear that in mind as you read my perspective.  Chances are good it will differ from your own.  It's okay to have different ones!

I think we need to have an honest conversation about the criticism, or in so many cases the accusation, of being judgmental.  If you've been following me for awhile you may remember when I discussed the intolerance of so-called tolerant people. This is equal to part two of that discussion. The people who are crying "judgmental" are usually being judgmental themselves. None of us are free from the temptations of passing judgment too quickly or harshly.  None of us. 

I've run into this particular accusation a lot in my life. People assume I am judgmental due to my differing opinions, expression of faith, the way I look, the choices I have made and make, my moral convictions, etc.  I'm willing to bet that you have also experienced the accusations of being judgmental for similar reasons.  Like I said, none of us are free from passing judgment on others. 

I am particularly bothered with the accusation for many of the same reasons I am bothered by the accusation of being intolerant. Just because we have differing opinions or beliefs about something doesn't mean that either one of us are intolerant or, for the purpose of this post, judgmental.  Now. The caveat is perhaps one or both of us are in fact being judgmental but it shouldn't be assumed that we are before proof is presented*.  It's okay for us to have different ideas, experiences, opinions, and beliefs about all kinds of things and it doesn't mean fingers are being pointed and derision is the adopted attitude.  Quit assuming the worst about me, the majority of the time you will find my motives and heart are sincere and I am in no way interested in passing judgment on people different than me.  In fact, I welcome people different than me.  I welcome the challenge and growth the differences between us provide. I'm not assuming the worst of you and if you think I am then ask me, challenge me, call me out on it. 

The prompt for this discussion came from hearing that someone I love believes that another person, whom I also love, is judgmental.  My heart is pierced.  The only reason for this accusation of judgment is based on differing experiences and moral convictions. The accusation comes from a place of protection as well.  I get that, we all feel protective of family and friends but we shouldn't allow it to prompt accusations of judgment toward another.

"In our culture today there are two thoughts that simply aren't true. Firstly, if we disagree with the lifestyle of someone then that means we hate them and maybe are even afraid of them. Secondly, if we love them then we have to accept everything they do and believe in. These are total nonsense! By disagreeing with them we are not hating them or being afraid of them. And we do not have to compromise our beliefs in order to show them love and compassion. Disagreeing with someone is not hating or being afraid or judging them." (Rick Warren)

The two people that I love had a conversation one day. One explained to the other a relationship dynamic that the other had never experienced personally. The one who hadn't had that relationship dynamic accepted the explanation, thought it was sad that anyone would experience it, and moved on from it loving and accepting things and people as they are. You might say the explanation helped that person come into understanding and they learned yet another facet of relationships.  The one who gave the explanation for the dynamic must have held on to the protective and defensive feelings for it was months later in which the accusation of the other being judgmental was verbalized. It's why my heart is pierced.  One had moved on, but for some reason the other had not. I'm still puzzled as to why. Why is this person I love so much choosing to make and believe this false accusation? It was never true in the first place and to make the accusation is so hurtful to me, not to mention the person it is directed at.

“It's okay to disagree with the thoughts or opinions expressed by other people. That doesn't give you the right to deny any sense they might make. Nor does it give you a right to accuse someone of poorly expressing their beliefs just because you don't like what they are saying. Learn to recognize good writing [common sense, truth, necessity] when you read [hear] it, even if it means overcoming your pride and opening your mind beyond what is comfortable.” (Ashly Lorenzana)  

Sometimes I think we cry "judgmental" toward someone else because we recognize a truth they spoke or a strand of unhealthy thinking in ourselves that needs to be addressed. Sometimes I think we use it as an adjective for someone because we feel uncomfortable by their differing ideas, beliefs, opinions, etc. Sometimes when someone has made a fair judgment we label them judgmental because we are jealous that they can draw a boundary that we feel unable to. Being a non-judgmental person means we allow ourselves to be uncomfortable with differences, that we love beyond differences, that we admit when something different makes more sense or is more healthy emotionally, mentally, spiritually, and physically. Being a non-judgmental person means we value humility more than pride.

There's more to this conversation, such as is there a difference between making judgments and being judgmental? I briefly mentioned this earlier. Or what is the distinction between being judgmental and practicing discriminative thinking? Isn't discriminative thinking judgmental behavior? For those conversations others have unpacked it better than I could. Take a few more minutes and educate yourself on the rest of the conversation, I did and was glad for the additional knowledge. Here are two articles, rather short on length but deep with insight, that I found helpful regarding this topic:
Eight dynamics to consider in making constructive judgments
The big difference between "discriminative thinking" and "being judgmental"

I suppose my point is this: Don't label me judgmental when you see my cross necklace or my Christian fish* and I won't label you judgmental when I see your rainbow flag or political donkey*.

Is it a deal?



*For example, Westboro Baptist Church is comprised of many individuals who have all individually provided more than enough proof of their judgmental spirits. But don't make the mistake of including me or any other Christian you may know in that group. Let me prove to you if I am judgmental or not. Don't fall into the trap of allowing a group to represent an individual when it comes to opinions, beliefs, etc. I'm extending the same courtesy to you. 

*These are just examples but they are some of the most common symbols we use as "proof" when we are accusing someone of being judgmental.